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    Caution wake turbulence departing DH8 (?)

    http://aviation-safety.net/news/newsitem.php?id=1922

    18 OCT 2007 Excel-Jet sues FAA over Sport-Jet VLJ crash
    Excel-Jet filed a suit against the FAA in an effort to prove that its very light jet airplane and pilot were not at fault in an accident in 2006. On June 22, 2006, the Sport-Jet rolled aggressively to the left immediately after liftoff and crashed.
    The company has long contended that wake turbulence was the cause, but the NTSB report, completed in April, found `it is most likely that the wake vortices were neither strong enough nor close enough to the Sport-Jet to cause the violent roll to the left.` The NTSB cited `a loss of control for an undetermined reason` as the probable cause of the accident.
    Excel-Jet claims the crash happened because air traffic controllers cleared the jet to take off behind a de Havilland DHC-8 in violation of mandatory separation requirements. (AVweb)

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    Re: Caution wake turbulence departing DH8 (?)

    Excel-Jet MTOW: 4,900 lbs
    Dash-8 MTOW: 64,500 lbs

    Excel-Jet Engine: Single 1500lb thrust turbofan (I can't do the math right now, but that converts to under 2,000hp)
    Dash-8 Engine: 2× Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150A turboprops, 5,071 hp (3,781 kW) each

    So yes, given the size differences, I think it could have been a problem.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: Caution wake turbulence departing DH8 (?)

    as long as first airplane departing is larger and heavier than the second airplane departing a wake turbulence caution should be issued.
    it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.

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    Re: Caution wake turbulence departing DH8 (?)

    From what I have been reading in different publications, NTSB has cited a good number of reasons why wake turbulence could not have been a factor in the crash.
    On the other hand, they did not find any problems with the airplane either...
    Flying is not dangerous; crashing is dangerous.

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