Thanks for the link Moose! Sadly, I don't believe that I am going to make to DC to catch this one. On a positive note, that site says that they will have live streaming video of the takeoff, so that's better than nothing!
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Thanks for the link Moose! Sadly, I don't believe that I am going to make to DC to catch this one. On a positive note, that site says that they will have live streaming video of the takeoff, so that's better than nothing!
For those who care about this sort of thing...
Length of Boeing 747-100: 231'
90° distance to JFK 31L flight path from Bayswater Park: ~4785'
So, when the shuttle is exactly at the shortest distance from the shooting position, the following focal length and sensor combinations will yield a particular FOV. In other words, the measurement next to each focal length will be the dimensions that will fit in your viewfinder.
Here are the various Field of View dimensions for various cameras at various focal lengths.
1.6x Crop Sensor (Canon)
@400mm: 269'
@500mm: 215'
1.5x Crop Sensor (Nikon)
@400mm: 287'
@500mm: 230'
1.3x Crop Sensor (Canon)
@400mm: 331'
@500mm: 265'
1.0x Full Frame Sensor (Canon, Nikon, 35mm Film, etc.)
@400mm: 430'
@500mm: 344'
Another way to interpret the above. When you frame the shuttle on to p of the SCA, using a Canon 1.6x Crop Sensor camera, it will fit nicely almost full frame. However at 500mm it will clip the nose, tail or both as the FOV is smaller than the length of the SCA. On a Full Frame Sensor, to fill the frame you would need a 700mm lens to fill the frame and leave a little room for cropping/framing and not clip the nose/tail or both :smile:
Hope this helps!
Well, tomorrow I get to face the Dragon in my own backyard. If it doesn't go well, you guys may count me in for the 23rd. I am very scared/nervous
Lord Help Me Sleep Tonight
Nick
Good hunting, Nick! Looking forward to seeing your photos.
I will be at JFK at the welcoming ceremony. Will post pictures after the event.........
Thanks, Moose! I'm holding about 15 miles south if the airport for a little while. Its almost go time!
Nick
Life feed from NASA TV
http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv
I can't get the day off from work, but I damn sure can head to the highest floor at work (64th fl @ 30 rock) and snap away as she comes up the hudson...that's the plan at least...
My two contributions from today's special event:
Photographed from the Lincoln Memorial...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...huttlemall.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13.../n905na747.jpg
Nice!
That first shot is AWESOME!!!!! It really tells the story...Shuttle on a 747 in DC!
Outstanding, Gordon!
Very Nice!!! Really makes me want to get it with the statue of liberty.....
Amazing shots, can not wait to see her Monday!
And please do anything agaist the bad weather forecast :frown:
And what a beauty pic withe the Monument!!!
I'll post over in the Spotting review section so that this thread can stay focused on Enterprise and JFK :)
if they're doing the low pass on 31L, what are the odds they'll do the canarsie climb and make a trip to HoBe worthwhile?
Hello everybody-
I see that most of you want to shoot at Bayswater, but that would not work for me unfortunately. :frown: I only have 300mm and I am shooting Nikon. If I was Canon, I would have a 100-400mm already ;) . I see that there is a parking lot on Roger Avenue. Has anybody spotted from there before? I see a lot of trees there on Google Earth- is it possible to get past them to the water's edge? I am in need of a spot a bit closer than Bayswater. The other alternative would be to go to another airport to see the Enterprise, but isn't 1500' too high?
EDIT: I just wanted to add, I am not as concerned about getting the touchdown as I am getting a good approach shot :)
Thank you everybody for your help!
Do we have an ETA for Monday? I have something Monday afternoon that I'd like to try to change because I want to head out there! I heard that the flight will be between 9:30 and 11:30 AM - where it is coming from?? Figured you knowledgeable folks would know better than me...
Bayswater should be fine with a 300 for this or you could go to Inwood Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike
You might get your wish as they are forecasting rain Sat night through Monday afternoon. Not sure if they would cancel/delay the flight but low visibility would mess up the Manhattan flyby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mateo
And that shot with the Wash Monument is AWESOME!!!!!!!!:biggrin::cool::biggrin:
that's what happens when you choose the dark side. Luckily, there is a quick-fix for the disease. www.lensrentals.com to the rescue!Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
You can just make out the chase plane underneath. Awesome.
I'm hoping to get the morning off, if I'm lucky. Workload is insane of late. Otherwise, I'll be checking the forum for some fantastic pics.
George
A 1-day delay would be terrible for us out-of-towners flying in for the event. I am really hoping for decent weather. If they delay, I hope they post that information before I get on the plane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mateo
As far as spotting goes, I am leaning toward Inwood. Based on what I "know" this would give me the fly-by and landing. I would love to be at HoBe for a banking shot, but I think I prefer two chances to catch it.
Where are the locals/smart kids going to be?!
I will be at Bayswater with my contingent but you can't go wrong with Inwood either. I really want that tower shot.
Gordon, the Monument shot is ridiculous!
I'll be there with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
Well, today at IAD they gave us a SECOND unexpected fly-by after she came back from D.C. passes. Then the landing shot... so if we get lucky, we may have time for HoBe as well as Bayswater... But this will depend if they pass JFK first or not. At IAD they STARTED at IAD and then went downtown then passed IAD again and then landed...
Hectic weekend! I'll be in Boston on Sunday to catch the first JAL 787 flight, then drive down to NYC for the Shuttle arrival. It is still April 23rd St Georges Day? Planning on booking a hotel close to JFK and travel down late Sunday! Much easier than falling out of bed at Oh dark thirty and riding down from Rhode Island on Monday. Guess plans to travel on the first MBTA train out of Wickford Junction to PVD Airport are off the table! See some of you Monday!! - Geoff
Has it been confirmed that the arrival of the Shuttle will be on Rwy 31L? Any chance she will use the VOR 13R Approach? I live near that approach and have no car so Bayswater is impossible for me.
I was planning to spot at Coney Island or from Battery Park. I can't be in both places at once. If she flies over the Statue, then Battery Park would be best. If she flies by the VZ Bridge as she did on June 10, 1983, then Coney Island would be best; especially if she uses the VOR 13R approach. We won't know in advance so it's a crap-shoot. Good luck to us all!
The chances that they will fly that crazy-assed curved VOR 13 approach with the shuttle on top are almost zero...I'd say they are zero, but you never say never. If yesterday's flight into IAD is any guide, they are going to close down the airspace around NYC and let them go pretty much anywhere they want. If for some reason they need to land on 13, they will fly a straight in to the runway. As I said to someone upthread - read reply 18 in this thread, you'll see it's not the crapshoot you think it is.
Bad news I hate to report. The weather service predicta a soaking rain all day Monday and even into Tuesday. What will the plans be due to inclement weather? I planned to sit at Battery Park to view the fly-by over Lower Manhattan and the Statue. It was a sure thing unlike the JFK runway used and approach. After all, the Statue cannot be moved while the arrival approach is variable. I vividly recall the disappointment when we wasted time waiting for the final Concorde arrival. I got zero pictures and we got harrassed by the Port Authority.
My plan is
1. Not to listen to the weatherman
2. Do not plan on the weatherman's forecast
3. If talking to a weatherman tell him I like to watch paint dry....
Why would you believe a forecast that is 5 days away???
Just saw on NY1, the Intrepid is removing many of the historic aircraft on their flight deck and sending them to a museum upstate. I was hoping they could be placed on the pier near Concorde or put across 12th Ave. It seems bewilderimg that the museum would get rid of aircraft which was part of aviation history for a prototype orbiter which never had engines or controls and never entered the stratosphere. Hope the Blackbird and Harrier are still on exhibit.
Well, I hope the dismal weather forecasts get better for Monday also, BUT if it doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Derf
happen to stay the same I just hope they won't wait until late on Sunday to announce
any delays in the arrival schedule so that everyone can still adjust their plans accordingly !!:wink:
Would there be a rain date or something for this or is this going to be a day to day decision type of thing?
what if it was an Al Roker weather-report?Quote:
Originally Posted by Derf
stiiiiiiiiiiirs the pot :tongue:
We are also calling for rain down here at Dulles on Monday. with Tuesday appearing to be the first dry day in the schedule. Don't count anything out, though, as we were calling for rain at IAD until a few days out.
Oh what to do?????