Huckabee, Obama win Iowa

[Midnight Mike]

Obama and Huckabee win first 2008 vote

DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Barack Obama took the first step to winning the Democratic presidential nomination on Thursday with a victory in Iowa, while Mike Huckabee capped a stunning political rise to beat Republican rival Mitt Romney.

Obama, an Illinois senator bidding to make U.S. history as the first black president, won the first Democratic test on the road to the White House with a win over New York Sen. Hillary Clinton and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who were in a tight battle for second.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080104/pl_ ... olitics_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080104/pl_nm/usa_politics_dc)

[T-Bird76]

Huckabee will never get the GOP nomination, he can't beat Clinton or Obama.

[Midnight Mike]

Huckabee will never get the GOP nomination, he can't beat Clinton or Obama.

Agreed, it is Iowa, the only importance of Iowa is that it is first.

Clinton has the Democratic vote already, the only question is which Republican will receive the nod.

Nationally, Rudy is still in front of the Republican pack, I am hoping that he remains in the lead.

[flyboy 28]

Huckabee will never get the GOP nomination, he can't beat Clinton or Obama.

But he can play bass!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fdtt8Gt1dfU

[Tom_Turner]

[quote="T-Bird76":b5ea5]
Nationally, Rudy is still in front of the Republican pack, I am hoping that he remains in the lead.[/quote:b5ea5]

Yes, the Huckabee win works great for those of us that might want there to be a Rudy Awakening in November.

Lets hope McCain takes down Romney in New Hampshire next.

TT

[Midnight Mike]

Dodd to drop presidential bid

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/ap_po/dodd

[adam613]

Nationally, Rudy is still in front of the Republican pack, I am hoping that he remains in the lead.

Me too.

[Tom_Turner]

Joe Biden bit the dust as well.....


Dodd to drop presidential bid

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/ap_po/dodd

[NIKV69]

Obama, an Illinois senator bidding to make U.S. history as the first black president,

Technically he isn't black though, isn't he malado? Or bi-racial for the PR crowd.


Clinton has the Democratic vote already, the only question is which Republican will receive the nod.


I tell you if Obama had a little more experience I think he would give Hillary a run for her money. I tell you though every time I hear an Obama speech I cringe he really has no idea what he is doing and no idea what he would be dealing with in the middle east. They would eat him alive.

[hiss srq]

As long as it is not Clinton or Romney I am happy. Some of the people Romney has working for him are less than savory.

[PhilDernerJr]

I don't care for any politician that has an overly religious agenda. I'll just leave it at that.

[Midnight Mike]

Here is a button that they had in Iowa

“DO YOU MISS CLINTON?” over a picture of the couple in front of the White House. “VOTE FOR MRS. CLINTON ‘08?

Senator Clinton, indirectly, is trying to take credit for the years that MR Clinton wa in the White House. Also, during her speeches, Mrs Clinton claims to have 35 years experience in politics :roll: :lol:

[PhilDernerJr]

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9811/13/sesame.street/hillary.jpg

Which puppet would YOU rather have in office?

©Phil Derner, Jr. :wink:

[Matt Molnar]

Bloomberg '08!

[adam613]

Bloomberg '08!

Amen!!

[NIKV69]

I don't care for any politician that has an overly religious agenda. I'll just leave it at that.


I tell you I think Huckabee played the media a bit with this religious stuff. Deep down he knew with Iowa being a born again christian state he would roll which he did but now he has an uphill fight. I think he better campaign a little more with his issues because the evangelical stuff is fading. It's hardball now for the next month.


Senator Clinton, indirectly, is trying to take credit for the years that MR Clinton wa in the White House. Also, during her speeches, Mrs Clinton claims to have 35 years experience in politics

Well someone had to be running the country when Bill was with Monica. All kidding aside she has done herself wrong on many fronts. I mean it probably doesn't matter but she could have did her campaign a lot of good by leaving Bill home and being a little more honest and straighforward.

[T-Bird76]

[quote]I don't care for any politician that has an overly religious agenda. I'll just leave it at that.


I tell you I think Huckabee played the media a bit with this religious stuff. Deep down he knew with Iowa being a born again christian state he would roll which he did but now he has an uphill fight. I think he better campaign a little more with his issues because the evangelical stuff is fading. It's hardball now for the next month.


Senator Clinton, indirectly, is trying to take credit for the years that MR Clinton wa in the White House. Also, during her speeches, Mrs Clinton claims to have 35 years experience in politics

Well someone had to be running the country when Bill was with Monica. All kidding aside she has done herself wrong on many fronts. I mean it probably doesn't matter but she could have did her campaign a lot of good by leaving Bill home and being a little more honest and straighforward.[/quote:bc6b3]

Nick I disagree about leaving Bill home. He was a wildly popular President when he was in office. If he could run again he'd win hands down. I think part of the problem is if she let him really standout people would say who's running? Her or Him? On her own she's a wreck so she is in a hard spot...I listened to her speech last night, omg...talk about a load of BS. I didn't buy one thing she was saying. Really though at this point in the game I'm not sure its worth looking into to deeply on the Dem side of the fence. The GOP yes....I mean how much money did Romny spend and he lost to a guy with no money at all? That does say something.

[NIKV69]

He was a wildly popular President when he was in office
Key word is "was" he is not as popular and the landscape has changed big time.


I think part of the problem is if she let him really standout people would say who's running? Her or Him?

Actually that is happening now. He is stealing the stage from her and that is what people are asking.


On her own she's a wreck so she is in a hard spot...I listened to her speech last night, omg...talk about a load of BS. I didn't buy one thing she was saying.

Business as usual, the Bill and Hillary show thought their name and eliteism would carry them. How wrong they were. She is a mess and is a liar and can't be trusted, worse the Dems other hope is Obama or Edwards. Not a good situation.


I mean how much money did Romny spend and he lost to a guy with no money at all? That does say something.


Iowa is a born again evangelical place, do you think no matter how much money is raised they will pick a mormon or a man that is pro life? Tommy you know better than that. Huckabee is enjoying his fame but it is fleeting.

[bonanzabucks]

One of my friends works for a lobbying firm and is pretty well connected in politics, mostly with the Democrats, but he knows a lot about the political landscape in general. This is what he had to say about what happened in Iowa:

*Iowa means nothing, so Huckabee and Obama victories are being blown way out of proportion by the media.
*New Hampshire is where it really matters as that state is kind of an indicator of where the rest of the country will vote because of it's make-up.
*Most Dems think Hillary will still win.
*If she loses NH, she's dead.
*Virtually all Dems are very worried if Obama wins the nomination. They say he has zero experience, talks crap most of the time and attracts mostly attention of the fringe left. Plus, the country wouldn't vote for a black president.
*Dems don't want Edwards to win either because he's too populist.
*Dems want Hillary to win because, as divisive as she is, she is the best-qualified and would probably get the most overall support. They also still live in the Bill Clinton days.
*Dems would like Bill Richardson to run for VP and there's a shot he would if Hillary got the nomination. I think he'd be good, too.
*Dems are pretty convinced she can beat just about any Republican candidate.
*My friend basically said that if Obama and Huckabee win the nomination, this country is in a whole lot of trouble because they're the two worst candidates of either side. He generally sides with the Dems, but he wouldn't know what to do in this case.
*Republicans want McCain or Giuliani because they are the best qualified, but they think Giuliani would have the best shot at winning.
*Reps are worried that McCain is too old.
*Reps think McCain-Giuliani would be a great ticket that could cover a huge spectrum. Agreed.
*Romney would be a disaster for the party because he doesn't even know where he stands and his religion is a big issue.
*Most Reps think that Hillary would beat just about any candidate they have. They've conceded this upcoming election if Hillary gets the nod.
*Reps think Fred Thompson has been a dud. He's too old as well. I actually thought he'd win the nomination!
*Repsdon't want Huckabee to win because they actually want someone more moderate and he actually scares Corporate America. They also think he'd be too similar to Bush.

So, overall...Dems really sticking behind Hillary, but worried about Obama's surge. Reps actually want someone more moderate because they've conceded that Bush has been a disaster and damaged the party. Prediction: Hillary for Dems and too close to call for Reps. That party is really divided!